Dr. Anne Ladyem McDivitt is on the pod this week to discuss her book Hot Tubs and Pac-Man: Gender and the Early Video Game Industry in the United States (1950s-1980s). But we also talk about her ultra controversial opinion on Final Fantasy 8 (she likes it!! But not the cards!!), early gaming magazines, fishing in games, “gamer” baggage, and much more. Tune in!